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::::: [[Користувач:MGA73|MGA73]], yes, some of them should already have those templates, but I guess not all of them and it is indeed a good idea to fix this. We used to have bots marking files without license (perhaps we have one now too, not sure if it still runs), and for the last decade there are some users that dedicate their time to tag the most obvious violations, I used to be active in this area as well, though that mostly was about 5 years ago. But there is relatively little manpower in this taskforce, so some files without proper license or source and author indicated do occasionally sneak in. We used to have an automated process for moving files: [[c:User:UWCTransferBot|User:UWCTransferBot]] automatically moves files tagged with Move to Commons and category specified if the last edit was made by a number of whitelisted trusted users. The problem is that for the last year or so the bot is broken, most likely because of some change in the action API. It uses rather old PHP framework for moving files, so it is easier to rewrite it than fix (I tried to do the latter and failed). Now there are also FileImporter/FileExporter extensions that probably has some API, but I did not really explore this yet. The whitelist of users is needed because we have some users among active contributors who were suspected of copyright laundering and similar issues in the past. Sometimes also the description needs to be updated lest file gets deleted on Commons for the lack of some information that is actually easily inferred from what is already there. For this reason just trusting everyone with the move is unfortunately not an option, at least not for the bot. Some wikis are challenging indeed, I remember trying to remove an unfree image (I have local images highlighted with a script: <syntaxhighlight lang="javascript" inline>mw.loader.load('//meta.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=User:Base/highlightLocalImgs.js&action=raw&ctype=text/javascript');</syntaxhighlight>) from some Wikipedia's mainpage which clearly violates Licensing policy, but then ended up being reverted by an admin and it is just something that leaves you speechless, unless you are ready to in fact go to other extremity and give the full lecture on licensing and why people should care… As for changing the Licenses thing, I am fairly positive we would need a discussion to do that. [[User:NickK|NickK]], [[User:Mykola7|Mykola7]], [[User:AlexKozur|AlexKozur]], would you be willing to start one? --<ruby>[[User:Base|<span style="color:#860">塩基</span>]]<rt>[[Special:Contribs/Base|<span style="color:#060">Base</span>]]</rt></ruby> 00:15, 20 лютого 2021 (UTC)
::::::Most of our newbies go through [[Вікіпедія:Майстер завантаження файлів]] now which uses a different dropdown menu. On the other side, we do not really have a ton of local uploads from free CC-licensed sources or similar, so most CC uploads are own works. However, I don't understand the ''change files licensed GFDL to Cc-by-sa-4.0 or another free license'': Ukrainian Wikipedia considers them free and does not explicitly ban GFDL uploads (they are not disabled, just not recommended). Personally I am using [[Користувач:Sergento/imgsHighlighter.js]], really useful, but I am only dealing with images from time to time now. I don't have an inspiration to move everything to Commons before Freedom of Panorama happens in Ukraine, as this is the biggest source of stress we cannot really clearly explain to our local uploaders — [[Користувач:NickK|NickK]] ([[Обговорення користувача:NickK|обг.]]) 00:31, 20 лютого 2021 (UTC)
: Hi [[User:Base|<span style="color:#860">塩基</span>]] and [[Користувач:NickK|NickK]]! GFDL it is banned on Commons. So if anyone upload a photo to uk.wikipedia and license it GFDL then it can't be moved to Commons later and if it is moved it will most likely be deleted. Since there are other free licenses I think it would be a good idea to stop new files from being uploaded as GFDL and to ask uploaders of old files if they are willing to relicense.
: FileImporter is a very simple and very fast way to move files. You just click export and ok. Thats it! If the files are good and have a good source, author etc then you can move perhaps 6 per minute (more if you "cheat" a bit). Of course it will take some time to find the right categories on Commons. But on Japanese Wikipedia I have added a temporary category so when the files are moved to Commons they end up in [[:c:Category:Unidentified subjects in Japan]]. Then I and other users can simply mass move files to Commons. There is a Japanese user that is extremely fast at categorizing files so I can move 100 files one day and next time I look all the files are categorized.
: About Freedom of Panorama I agree that it is sad. And to prevent files from being moved to Commons I think it would be good to add a "<nowiki>{{NoFoP}}</nowiki>" or similar. And for suspected copyvios a solution could be to add all uploads from the bad users in a category or to add "<nowiki>{{LicenseCheckNeeded}}</nowiki>" and then it is easy to make FileImporter refuse to move files with those templates or categories.
: If there are some users that would like to move larger amounts of files then I think a good way is to find a good user and make a list of all the files he/she uploaded and if there are things that needs to be fixed then use a bot to do it. For example change text that says "own work", "I took this photo" etc to "<nowiki>{{own}}</nowiki>" and perhaps add a temporary category with [[:Category:Unidentified subjects in Ukraine]] so the files are easy to find again on Commons. Here is an example of [https://commons.wikimedia.org/w/index.php?title=File:Rapid-Musashino-Okutama-sideboard.jpg&diff=prev&oldid=533022042 an edit that added information template]. (The links look bad because the edit was made on Japanese Wikipedia but when the file was moved to Commons FileImporter made the links work.). --[[Користувач:MGA73|MGA73]] ([[Обговорення користувача:MGA73|обговорення]]) 11:02, 20 лютого 2021 (UTC)